苹果淫院

Daniel Lametti graduated from 苹果淫院 with a PhD in Psychology in 2013. His thesis research focused on the brain basis of limb movements and speech production. He is now an Assistant Professor of Psychology at Acadia University in Wolfville, Nova Scotia, studying how we learn complex movements such as speech production and teaching courses in cognition and psycholinguistics.

Q: Did you always want to be a professor? What was your career search process like?聽

I have an uncle and aunt who are professors at 苹果淫院 actually and it seemed like a great job, just learning all day. But I started doing a PhD and it seemed very, very hard. It was a real slog at times and everybody was complaining about how the academic job market was terrible, so I started to think about doing other things.聽

One of the unique things about my PhD is that my advisor let me take two summers off and I did internships at two different magazines doing science writing, which鈥攁lthough I didn鈥檛 go into a science writing career鈥攈as proven to be so helpful in terms of my writing ability, producing papers, telling stories etc.

Q: How did you get into science writing and find these internship opportunities?聽

During one of the low phases in my PhD where I was thinking 鈥渕an, academia鈥檚 the worst鈥�, somebody told me I should try science writing. So I started writing for the 苹果淫院 Daily and I ended up writing a science column for them. Based on those clips, I applied to this internship advertised on Twitter or something, and I got it. It was fun, for sure鈥攁 cool experience.聽

Q: That鈥檚 so great of your supervisor to give you the time to explore that.

He was a great supervisor, and very generous in that way. I know some supervisors would not be up for that, but I think he was starting to realize just how tough it was in academia, and that allowing students to broaden their experiences is a good thing.聽

Q: How did you choose the postdoc position that you did after your PhD? Had you reconsidered the idea of becoming a professor?

During my PhD I spent six months at University College London thanks to an NSERC travel grant. It wasn鈥檛 the best lab for me, but I really liked London as a place to live, and I had decided to stay in academia, so I wrote an application to FQRNT for a postdoctoral award to go back. To be honest, it wasn鈥檛 the smartest choice because it was a very big lab focused on topics I wasn鈥檛 particularly interested in. I was there for a year, not really accomplishing anything useful, and then my funding started to run out.聽

Meanwhile, I had made some contacts with a professor at Oxford who I really wanted to work with. I applied for a Marie Curie Fellowship and an NSERC postdoctoral Fellowship, and had everything riding on receiving this funding, hoping that I would then move to Oxford to what I thought would be a better situation. But it didn鈥檛 work out.聽

So I was in this situation where my funding was drying up, I was in this really expensive city thinking, 鈥渨hat am I going to do?鈥� I thought it was time to leave academia.聽

Q: It can be difficult to adjust to selling yourself to industry when you鈥檙e used to an academic environment. Was there anything you consciously highlighted on your CV or in job applications?

Two things really helped me. One was that I had this little bit of non-academic experience鈥擨 had done these two writing internships鈥攁nd that showed that I had some knowledge of the world outside of academia.聽

The other was that I had a friend, who worked as a consultant, basically redo my CV for me. He would say, 鈥渢his is too loose鈥�, 鈥渢his is stupid鈥�, 鈥済et this down to a page鈥�, 鈥渄on鈥檛 say 鈥榬esearch supervision鈥�, call that 鈥榩roject management鈥� instead鈥� etc. These little tweaks really made a huge difference.聽

I ended up landing a job at a biomedical charity in London called the Wellcome Trust. They fund a lot of research in neuroscience and psychology, so I was in this team responsible for that funding. It was cool because I was reading all of these grant applications from all the bigshots in the U.K. and figuring out what works and what doesn鈥檛.聽 It was a very interesting experience.聽

I probably would have stayed there forever, actually. I was pretty sure I was done with academia, but, six months into my job at this charity, the advisor at Oxford I had been trying to get funding to work with suggested I try one more fellowship application. 鈥淵ou鈥檝e already got the proposals written鈥� she said, 鈥渨hy don鈥檛 you just give it a go and see what happens?鈥� Seven months later, I got the fellowship: three years of salary and research funding to be pseudo-independent at Oxford. I couldn鈥檛 give that up! Even if I didn鈥檛 continue in academia after, just being at Oxford for three years would be a lot of fun.聽

I think there鈥檚 this feeling in academia that once you leave, you can鈥檛 come back, but I don鈥檛 think that鈥檚 necessarily true. There are things you can do outside of academia that are very helpful. Certainly the time I spent at this non-profit reading all these grant applications has been so helpful with my academic career now.聽

Q: How did this new lab at Oxford compare to your first postdoc in London?聽

I was just as independent as I had been in my first postdoc, but in a much better environment for me. My supervisor was much more involved and interested in what I was doing, and there were other postdocs and graduate students in psychology to bounce ideas off of in weekly lab meetings. I sort of got back to the atmosphere that I had at 苹果淫院.聽

I got some papers published and, for the first time, I felt like I knew what I was doing, at least in my own little area of research.聽

In academia you鈥檙e always battling imposter syndrome. Everybody seems so smart. You go to conferences and people are giving these amazing talks and they鈥檙e brilliant鈥� and you鈥檙e lost within 30 seconds. The thing is, everybody else feels the exact same way. The key for me was finding my own niche and pursuing that. Suddenly I had a lot of ideas and I could see how I could link them together into a grant proposal, for instance.聽

Q: It sounds like the sense of community was a big part of your success at Oxford.聽聽

For sure, the other thing I鈥檇 like to mention as well is teaching: I鈥檝e always enjoyed academia when I鈥檓 teaching. At 苹果淫院, I was a T.A. and I loved that. In London at UCL, I wasn鈥檛 doing any teaching. We were in a research institute鈥攖here was no teaching to be done. At Oxford I was teaching again.聽

As a psychologist, we talk about reward schedules, and the reward schedules are very sparse in research. It鈥檚 just constant rejection and all of a sudden, once in a while, maybe once a year, once every two years, you get a reward and that sort of strings you along. But if you add teaching onto that, the relationship between effort and success is much more clear, much more linear. So it鈥檚 a way to give yourself these rewards that are lacking in research.聽

I guess that鈥檚 also kind of why I ended up at an institution that is more teaching-oriented, because it鈥檚 something I really enjoy.聽

Daniel Lametti talks about getting back to teaching after a research-focused postdoc.

Q: As a professor, having finished your PhD, done a couple of postdocs, and gone in and out of industry, what advice would you give to current PhD students?

The PhD is kind of the best time of your life: You explore a bunch of things that you鈥檙e interested in and you have time to cultivate extracurricular activities. In my case, writing for the school paper and doing internships in journalism went a long way to help me in my career.聽

I hope that supervisors are realizing that it鈥檚 very important for graduate students to be able to broaden their skillset. It could be something like taking a data science course or a graphic design course or something like that. Allowing students to take a couple of months off and try something new is super helpful, especially when the traditional trajectory of PhD to postdoc to principal investigator is just such a hard trajectory.聽